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mr. ryan has been neg associating from a position of strength and weakness. the sequester is law, cutting down spending to $91 billion. but on the other hand the democrats know what we all know. there are two groups of republicans in the house caucus, both of which are larger than the margin of the budget. people on the appropriations committee and don't like the fact the fun has been taken out of their life by the sequester. the other are the defense republicans. somewhere between 30 and 50 of them vote primarily on defense and they cannot stand, they say, another sequester cut, half of which coming from the 17% of the budget that is defense. so there has been a shaky group behind paul ryan and he has to try and satisfy them. >> to that point, and i said neither part your has the stomach, you have republicans still hurting politically from the shutdown but frankly democrats are hurting big-time from obama care. >> oh, yeah. >> and neither party really wants this to blow up january 15th.
mr. ryan has been neg associating from a position of strength and weakness. the sequester is law, cutting down spending to $91 billion. but on the other hand the democrats know what we all know. there are two groups of republicans in the house caucus, both of which are larger than the margin of the budget. people on the appropriations committee and don't like the fact the fun has been taken out of their life by the sequester. the other are the defense republicans. somewhere between 30 and 50 of...
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but george wh bush welcomed nelson mandela to any white house for the first time. >> mr. mandela in the eyes of million around the world you stand against apartheid, against a system that bases the rights and freedoms of citizenship on the basis of one's skin. that is repugnant to the ideals we in america hold so dear. >> reporter: he calls mandela the man who enbodies the hope of millions, and said apartheid must end. >> to receive the support of any government is in our situation something of enormous importance, but to receive the support of the government of the united states of america, the leader of the world is something beyond words. >> reporter: this support helped mandela politically. >> and defend the constitution of the united states. >> reporter: but when bill clinton was elected the relationship grew personal. mandela made numerous trips to the u.s. including soon after his election as president of south africa. and president clinton traveled to south africa and visited the jail cell mandela called home. >> he is a ferociously loyal friend. >> reporter: mand
but george wh bush welcomed nelson mandela to any white house for the first time. >> mr. mandela in the eyes of million around the world you stand against apartheid, against a system that bases the rights and freedoms of citizenship on the basis of one's skin. that is repugnant to the ideals we in america hold so dear. >> reporter: he calls mandela the man who enbodies the hope of millions, and said apartheid must end. >> to receive the support of any government is in our...
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way to remember and to commemorate mr. mandela is to legacy and d his spirit. we believe that under the and the p of president government of south africa the people will continue to make big strides orward along the path of national rejuvenation and development. hina continues to work with south africa to deepen the partnership and bring benefits the two people and make positive contributions to the peace and of world development. finally i'd like to say, the man has left, but mmandela's heart and spirit will live forever. thank you all! ♪ ♪ we welcome his excellency from and prime from lebanon, his president from south prime minister from from , his excellency excellency from gambia, his excellency president from ireland, his excellency mohammed from to you can't,i is excellency president ichelle joseph, his excellency and royal ter from spain, honorable from jamaica, his xcellency president from finland, his excellency from pha lou we, excellency from france, his prime minister, his ghana,ncy president from president from prime , his excellency inister fr
way to remember and to commemorate mr. mandela is to legacy and d his spirit. we believe that under the and the p of president government of south africa the people will continue to make big strides orward along the path of national rejuvenation and development. hina continues to work with south africa to deepen the partnership and bring benefits the two people and make positive contributions to the peace and of world development. finally i'd like to say, the man has left, but mmandela's heart...
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mandela was quite ill for several months. but still, the coordination of this, the security concerns of this, extraordinary. >> reporter: well, as you know, they have been quietly planning for his death for quite some time. but they didn't know how many heads of state would be here. it was a remarkable feat, given the number of government leaders they had here. they put a security plan together, they got them all in and out safely. there didn't appear to be a lot of screening or any screening of all, those of us who came in the stadium here today, perhaps a reflection of the mood, and little fear, given the fact that most of the dignitaries were behind bulletproof glass and able to come in a separate entrance. >> lester holt in soweto, south africa for us this morning. an event that started about 1:00 west coast time, involving all those prayers and speeches by dignitaries and ending just a short time ago. lester, thank you very much. we'll have more coverage coming up right now with savannah. >> let's bring in nbc's brian wi
mandela was quite ill for several months. but still, the coordination of this, the security concerns of this, extraordinary. >> reporter: well, as you know, they have been quietly planning for his death for quite some time. but they didn't know how many heads of state would be here. it was a remarkable feat, given the number of government leaders they had here. they put a security plan together, they got them all in and out safely. there didn't appear to be a lot of screening or any...
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and so i'm glad that mr. cruz has been inspired by mr. mandela. i think he ought to be instructed by president mandela. the fact is that if you play to the french, if the mainstream goes out of its way to coddle the fringe, the fringe will become the mainstream and you'll find yourself sewn up in a bag that's difficult even for you to escape. this is not the first time we've heard these kinds of words, marxist, socialist, communist, terrorist. we've heard these ugly labels, if you will, code words aimed at another black president, president obama, who i think paid a moving and powerful tribute to nelson mandela, who inspired president obama and inspires all of us. >> you said that you hope senator cruz is instructed by mandela's legacy. in what way? >> i think as the president talked this morning about the fact that our work continues, it is not incredibly difficult to pay hommage to the movement and making south africa strong, unified, democratic and nonracist society that president mandela talked about continues, but this work continues as the p
and so i'm glad that mr. cruz has been inspired by mr. mandela. i think he ought to be instructed by president mandela. the fact is that if you play to the french, if the mainstream goes out of its way to coddle the fringe, the fringe will become the mainstream and you'll find yourself sewn up in a bag that's difficult even for you to escape. this is not the first time we've heard these kinds of words, marxist, socialist, communist, terrorist. we've heard these ugly labels, if you will, code...
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as you saw, it's fitting the service is being held at fnmb stadium, mr. mandela made his final public appearance at the 2010 world cup. tuesday, december 10th. welcome back to "morning joe." reverend article sharpton, harold ford jr. and for bloomberg, juliana goldman. we'll get to the table in just a moment, but first we want to turn to nbc's tracie potts live in south africa. tracie? >> reporter: mika, good morning from pretoria. after today, the focus is going to shift here. that big building behind me referred to as the union buildings. this is the center of government, of administration for south africa, and it's where nelson mandela will lie in state for the next three days. but today, of course, the focus was on that stadium near soweto. the public memorial where we're told as many as 100,000 people packed this stadium in the rain. a lot of them waited as many as eight hours for the doors to open. the highlight so far has been the speech by president president obama where he talked about nelson mandela as a giant of history, he talked about some of
as you saw, it's fitting the service is being held at fnmb stadium, mr. mandela made his final public appearance at the 2010 world cup. tuesday, december 10th. welcome back to "morning joe." reverend article sharpton, harold ford jr. and for bloomberg, juliana goldman. we'll get to the table in just a moment, but first we want to turn to nbc's tracie potts live in south africa. tracie? >> reporter: mika, good morning from pretoria. after today, the focus is going to shift here....
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the relationship mandela had with the clintons. when i spoke to mrs. obama last year, he couldn't come, so he sent his family ahead. it was quite interesting. i said, what did you say to him, what did you talk about and what did it mean? she expressed a sense that she had nothing to say. she didn't know what to say to mandela, because with this arc of history, with the sense of being with this man, she found herself just being able to say thank you. that was -- you couldn't really make small talk with nelson mandela. this was a man who you actually -- what can you say? she found that. >> he was so ill at that time, too. >> his hearing wasn't good either. >> he wasn't normally communicating as he might have done before. >> the message outlives the man. that's a big point you're hearing at the memorial today. mandela would want that put first, that it is not about him, it is about the message. the president said, i can't help but think when he was pound the words about what reconciliation means and that just because you don't agree d
the relationship mandela had with the clintons. when i spoke to mrs. obama last year, he couldn't come, so he sent his family ahead. it was quite interesting. i said, what did you say to him, what did you talk about and what did it mean? she expressed a sense that she had nothing to say. she didn't know what to say to mandela, because with this arc of history, with the sense of being with this man, she found herself just being able to say thank you. that was -- you couldn't really make small...
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. >> long live nelson mandela. long live. we appeal for those behind the stage to please tone down their singing. those behind the stage, please tone down your singing. mrs. zuma is on the stage. >> there's been a lot of singing all morning long in south africa. so many people want to express their joy and celebrate the life of nelson mandela, as terry moran has been saying. can you hear me now? the crowd there just -- just wants to express themselves and enjoy themselves. >> reporter: they sure do. this crowd is celebrating the life of nelson mandela. there's a sense of joy here. this is not mourning. this is pride, solidarity with each other. this is gratitude for the tremendous gift, and this is song, just as a country earlier on, the halls of the stadium were filled with crowds of men and women, the dancing and singing as they come through the halls of the stadium. and i was watching them and a man said to me, this is who we are as africans. we mark every passage of our lives in song. we grieve in song. we're happy in son
. >> long live nelson mandela. long live. we appeal for those behind the stage to please tone down their singing. those behind the stage, please tone down your singing. mrs. zuma is on the stage. >> there's been a lot of singing all morning long in south africa. so many people want to express their joy and celebrate the life of nelson mandela, as terry moran has been saying. can you hear me now? the crowd there just -- just wants to express themselves and enjoy themselves. >>...
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a little over three years ago in that very stadium, mr. mandela would make what was one of his last appearances there at the world cup. smiling, cheering. that day would end in tragedy. he lost his granddaughter in a traffic accident on that week and he was not seen again in public. as we said, more than 100 world leaders have come for this memorial service this morning including four american presidents. president and mrs. obama, along with president george w. bush and laura bush. here they are right now. the former secretary of state and first lady hillary clinton. long 17-hour flight on air force one. they reconfigured the cabins a bit so everybody could get some sleep. president bush and mrs. bush were in what is usually the medical unit of air force one. secretary clinton took over the first class staff cabin. and of course the president and mrs. obama had their apartment up front. we're told they spent an awful lot of time on that flight together in the conference room, joining together to remember a man who changed so much. and we s
a little over three years ago in that very stadium, mr. mandela would make what was one of his last appearances there at the world cup. smiling, cheering. that day would end in tragedy. he lost his granddaughter in a traffic accident on that week and he was not seen again in public. as we said, more than 100 world leaders have come for this memorial service this morning including four american presidents. president and mrs. obama, along with president george w. bush and laura bush. here they...
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murdoch, and he, too, has a deep and multi-year relationship with nelson mandela. >> he does, indeed, and also his role as the middle east negotiator for palestinian economic rights, but the peace talks but the economic rights, so he still remains on the world stage and was a very close -- had a very close relationship with nelson mandela. you were speaking earlier about the possibility of chance encounters, and one intriguing would be raul. the cuban leader, that day fidel castro came side by side very briefly with bill clinton, and it was the last year of -- the closing months of clinton, and castro was an early supporter of mandela, and he shook hands with bill clinton, and today there are two speakers, raul castro, and president obama, the president of cuba. apparently, according to members of the national security team, they have no assurances of any seating arrangements or any way of keeping them apart, so we don't know whether or not, according to protocol or however they are going to arrange this, whether castro will be seated anywhere near barack obama, brian. >> we were sayi
murdoch, and he, too, has a deep and multi-year relationship with nelson mandela. >> he does, indeed, and also his role as the middle east negotiator for palestinian economic rights, but the peace talks but the economic rights, so he still remains on the world stage and was a very close -- had a very close relationship with nelson mandela. you were speaking earlier about the possibility of chance encounters, and one intriguing would be raul. the cuban leader, that day fidel castro came...
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a little over three years ago in that very stadium, mr. mandela would make what was one of his last appearances there at the world cup. smiling, cheering. that day would end in tragedy. he lost his granddaughter in a traffic accident on that week and he was not seen again in public. as we said, more than 100 world leaders have come for this memorial service this morning including four american presidents. president and mrs. obama, along with president george w. bush and laura bush. here they are right now. the former secretary of state and first lady hillary clinton. long 17-hour flight on air force one. they reconfigured the cabins a bit so everybody could get some sleep. president bush and mrs. bush were in what is usually the medical unit of air force one. secretary clinton took over the first class staff cabin. and of course the president and mrs. obama had
a little over three years ago in that very stadium, mr. mandela would make what was one of his last appearances there at the world cup. smiling, cheering. that day would end in tragedy. he lost his granddaughter in a traffic accident on that week and he was not seen again in public. as we said, more than 100 world leaders have come for this memorial service this morning including four american presidents. president and mrs. obama, along with president george w. bush and laura bush. here they...
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he, too, has a deep and multi year relationship with nelson mandela. >> he does, indeed. and also the role as middle east negotiator for economic rights. he was and still remains on the world stage and had very close relationship with nelson mandela. you were speaking about the possibility of [ inaudible ] and it calls to mind the only known encounter between an american president and a post-revolutionary period cuban leader was in september of 2000, that day at the united nations ca castro came side by side with clinton. shook hands with bill clinton. today he has two speakers among these very special dignitaries, president obama and raul castro. that will be closely watched checking in with people who flew over in air force one and members of the international security team have no assurances of seating arrangements or any ways of keeping them apart. you don't know whether or not according to protocol or however they are going to arrange this whether or not castro would be seated near barack obama. >> we were saying they will go through extraordinary lengths to keep eve
he, too, has a deep and multi year relationship with nelson mandela. >> he does, indeed. and also the role as middle east negotiator for economic rights. he was and still remains on the world stage and had very close relationship with nelson mandela. you were speaking about the possibility of [ inaudible ] and it calls to mind the only known encounter between an american president and a post-revolutionary period cuban leader was in september of 2000, that day at the united nations ca...
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mr. christie for re-election two weeks before the toll booths shut down, and that mayor's town got forcibly gridlocked into a complete standstill." new jersey governor chris christie was never going to lose his re-election last month. the question was not whether he was going to win but by how much. he even moved a special election for a u.s. senate seat to a day when he would not have to be on the ballot with a popular democrat so as to not risk shrinking his margin of victory, didn't want to run on the same day that new jersey was going to pick newark mayor cory booker as their new democratic u.s. senator. governor christie's decision to hold that election on a separate-day from his own recoronation cost the state millions of dollars. chris christie made that decision, even though he led the governors race by double digits the whole way. on his way to his second term, chris christie got support from dozens of leading new jersey democrats, including lots and lots of local mayors, but he
mr. christie for re-election two weeks before the toll booths shut down, and that mayor's town got forcibly gridlocked into a complete standstill." new jersey governor chris christie was never going to lose his re-election last month. the question was not whether he was going to win but by how much. he even moved a special election for a u.s. senate seat to a day when he would not have to be on the ballot with a popular democrat so as to not risk shrinking his margin of victory, didn't...
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president and mrs. obama boarded air force one today for the flight and riding with them, former president george w. bush and his wife, laura and former secretary of state hillary clinton. bill clinton will meet them there. jimmy carter arrived and oakland congress woman barbara lee is part of the under the circumstances -- u.s. congressional gel del investigation. here is a look at the schedule of the events in south africa. >> this is where the big public memorial will take place tomorrow. the 95,000 seats will be packed tomorrow with south africans of all stripes as well as dignitaries from are around the world this, will be the biggest event during the week of mourning, started yesterday with prayer and remembrance. will be follow by the three days of lying in state in the capitol, for the south africans to say their final goodbyes sunday will be the funeral mandela will be laid to rest in the village where he grew up. >> abc news is planning live coverage of the memorial to begin at about 1:00 a.m
president and mrs. obama boarded air force one today for the flight and riding with them, former president george w. bush and his wife, laura and former secretary of state hillary clinton. bill clinton will meet them there. jimmy carter arrived and oakland congress woman barbara lee is part of the under the circumstances -- u.s. congressional gel del investigation. here is a look at the schedule of the events in south africa. >> this is where the big public memorial will take place...
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president and mrs. obama boarded air force one today for the flight and riding with them, former president george w. bush and his wife, laura and former secretary of state hillary clinton. bill clinton will meet them there. jimmy carter arrived and oakland congress woman barbara lee is part of the under the circumstances -- u.s. congressional gel del investigation. here is a look at the schedule of the events in south africa. >> this is where the big public memorial will take place tomorrow. the 95,000 seats will be packed tomorrow with south africans of all stripes as well as dignitaries from are around the world this, will be the biggest event during the week of mourning, started yesterday with prayer and remembrance. will be follow by the three days of lying in state in the capitol, for the south africans to say their final goodbyes sunday will be the funeral mandela will be laid to rest in the village where he grew up. >> abc news is planning live coverage of the memorial to begin at about 1:00 a.m
president and mrs. obama boarded air force one today for the flight and riding with them, former president george w. bush and his wife, laura and former secretary of state hillary clinton. bill clinton will meet them there. jimmy carter arrived and oakland congress woman barbara lee is part of the under the circumstances -- u.s. congressional gel del investigation. here is a look at the schedule of the events in south africa. >> this is where the big public memorial will take place...
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an historic flight to pay tribute to nelson mandela. on board air force one with president and mrs. obama, president george wurks bush and first lady laura bush and former secretary of state hillary clinton. on the way to south africa, they gathered together in the plane's conference room telling their stories that spanned three presidential administrations. president's clinton and carter are traveling separately to johannesburg. the last time these presidents were all together was in april at the opening of the george w. bush presidential library, but this event in a foreign country will mean much greater security concerned. sources involved in planning president clinton's prim to the funeral of israel prime minister rabin, and the funeral of pope john paul ii tells cnn it decrease nerve-racking to depend on a foreign country. >> they do a lot of planning and they're very good at this. the south africans have challenges, in addition to security, logistical challenges. >> reporter: the memorial service will take place in a soccer stadium that holds 90,000 people. more than 90 world
an historic flight to pay tribute to nelson mandela. on board air force one with president and mrs. obama, president george wurks bush and first lady laura bush and former secretary of state hillary clinton. on the way to south africa, they gathered together in the plane's conference room telling their stories that spanned three presidential administrations. president's clinton and carter are traveling separately to johannesburg. the last time these presidents were all together was in april at...
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i, too, pay tribute to the right honorable member mr. hain and all his fellow campaigners for what they did at that time. all of this will make the way we mark tomorrow's international human rights day all the more significant, and britain can pay no greater tribute to nelson mandela than by standing up around the world for the values of human rights and equality for which he fought. when nelson mandela took his first steps to freedom, he made no call for vengeance, only forgiveness. he understood that dismantling apartheid's legacy was about more than just removing the most explicit signs of discrimination and segregation, and he recognised too that to build a brighter future south africa must confront the darkness of its past. in doing so, nelson mandela laid down a blueprint that has made it possible for other divided communities, such as in northern ireland, to reject violence, overcome their differences and make a fresh beginning. that is why i hope, in communities where people are still struggling to replace violence and conflict w
i, too, pay tribute to the right honorable member mr. hain and all his fellow campaigners for what they did at that time. all of this will make the way we mark tomorrow's international human rights day all the more significant, and britain can pay no greater tribute to nelson mandela than by standing up around the world for the values of human rights and equality for which he fought. when nelson mandela took his first steps to freedom, he made no call for vengeance, only forgiveness. he...
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mandela, the secret service and security forces here are sfam with protecting with mr. mandela. this is not an unknown island. of course, anything is possible about the they are taking unprecedented steps to make sure the stadium is secure. the treats in the area near here will be closing down in a couple of hours and private vehicles will not be allowed anywhere near the stadium. it is expected to be an emotional day. the program has just been released and there will be remarks by several of mr. mandela's grandchildren and comments from a former political prisoner along with him who served 26 years on rob bin island and remarks from heads of states like president obama and leaders of brazil and china and cuba. cuba has been a long time friend of this country. unprecedented day and may rival the size of the funeral and services held for pope john paul ii, a huge day of celebration and security will be extremely tight and a lot of emotion from well wisher here and around the world. >> thank you, ron for that very important update. this weekend much of the subject talk centered ar
mandela, the secret service and security forces here are sfam with protecting with mr. mandela. this is not an unknown island. of course, anything is possible about the they are taking unprecedented steps to make sure the stadium is secure. the treats in the area near here will be closing down in a couple of hours and private vehicles will not be allowed anywhere near the stadium. it is expected to be an emotional day. the program has just been released and there will be remarks by several of...
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mandela's. my husband was a pat, pan african congress, mr. mandela was founder of anc, african national congress, others south african national union. i was used to those men and a few women shouting and screaming at each other. they were really arch rivals. when mr. mandela came, he didn't raise his voice. he didn't argue with anybody. he didn't put anybody down. they were rivals. i had never met a south african who wasn't shouting and really angry all the time. i know he was angry, but he didn't use his energy foolishly. so it was a year after that he was imprisoned. i became friends with his wife then, winnie mandela. and we continued to support each other over the years and over the oceans. and she would tell me how he was. he wasn't vitt uperative with t guards. i was part of hillary clinton's delegates when he was inaugurated. i sat there and watched the guards, who had guarded him for 27 years, sitting in the right sights, in the best seats, invited by mr. mandela. not to say look how you treated me. i'm free now and i can ya ya ya at
mandela's. my husband was a pat, pan african congress, mr. mandela was founder of anc, african national congress, others south african national union. i was used to those men and a few women shouting and screaming at each other. they were really arch rivals. when mr. mandela came, he didn't raise his voice. he didn't argue with anybody. he didn't put anybody down. they were rivals. i had never met a south african who wasn't shouting and really angry all the time. i know he was angry, but he...
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yet politics has not been absent in the days since mr. mandela's passing, kate. i think what had happened in some corners of the conservative blogosphere, twittersphere -- i'm not from the 20th century. please don't ask me to use these words. on his facebook page commenters, including this person who couldn't spend his name called him a commune nist involved in torture, terror, murder and they have lost a lot of respect for senator cruz. it's amazing to me the vitriol that exists in parts of american society. people like nelson mandela who should be a hero for everybody the world over and especially here in the united states. >> he was a political person so people are going to have political feelings about him. kudos to senator cruz for what's being said on his facebook and going. he obviously wanted to go. >> which is less about nelson mandela and more about ted cruz. jonathan, in fairness if we're talking about conservatives who are quote, unquote, doing the right thing, newt gingrich called nelson mandela one of the greatest leaders of our lifetime and got a b
yet politics has not been absent in the days since mr. mandela's passing, kate. i think what had happened in some corners of the conservative blogosphere, twittersphere -- i'm not from the 20th century. please don't ask me to use these words. on his facebook page commenters, including this person who couldn't spend his name called him a commune nist involved in torture, terror, murder and they have lost a lot of respect for senator cruz. it's amazing to me the vitriol that exists in parts of...
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there is just a huge outpouring for mr. mandela and literally the world wants to be here. millions more will be watching on television around the world, social media will be swamped and perhaps overwhelmed by remembrances of mr. mandela, just a singular event that's going to take place here in south africa honoring the life of nelson mandela. >> it's a good opportunity to remind everybody what he did. i remember watching this weekend all the coverage in terms of teaching them what happened. ron allen, we appreciate it. >>> more people are signing up for obama care, but does that mean the website and the pr push are actually working? coming up, i'll speak with connecticut congressman rosa delauro. >>> also ahead, we've all complained about airport layovers but this one takes the cake. how did a man end up locked inside a dark, empty plane long after it landed? we'll explain. ♪ ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. if every u.s. home replaced one light bulb with a compact fluorescent bulb, the energy saved could ligh
there is just a huge outpouring for mr. mandela and literally the world wants to be here. millions more will be watching on television around the world, social media will be swamped and perhaps overwhelmed by remembrances of mr. mandela, just a singular event that's going to take place here in south africa honoring the life of nelson mandela. >> it's a good opportunity to remind everybody what he did. i remember watching this weekend all the coverage in terms of teaching them what...
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on "face the nation" yesterday bob schieffer focused mandela's life. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i loved the show how you started with maya angelou and ended with the poem she had written for him because it so brilliantly captured his life and what it meant. >> she is an amazing person in her own right. >> i think so too. >> when i called her last week and asked her to be on i thought -- she's not in the best of health. she can't travel very much and she said, no i'll do it because i want to. and then i found autoout she had written this poem. she didn't tell us. she told us on the show when the state department asked her to do this not to disclose it for -- until 48 hours after he was dead. >> how did you get gayle king to do it? >> you know that was an e-mail from bob schieffer to gayle king. yeah. what they're saying in south africa, though today about him while they're grieving, of course they're also celebrating. i saw one woman who said the old man did his part and he did it well and now we must let him go. what do you think people s
on "face the nation" yesterday bob schieffer focused mandela's life. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i loved the show how you started with maya angelou and ended with the poem she had written for him because it so brilliantly captured his life and what it meant. >> she is an amazing person in her own right. >> i think so too. >> when i called her last week and asked her to be on i thought -- she's not in the best of health. she can't travel very...
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. >> up next, remembering nelson mandela, the president and mrs. obama are on the way to south africa right now for what is becoming a massive memorial, perhaps the largest in world history. heads of state will be gagering to pay respects. it will be a security nightmare for agents around the world. >> cans on across the country thanks to a wintry mix. we will have none other than jim cantore who will be live from the snowy northeast. a look ahead at the politics planner. >> it will bed bidens for them for a holiday celebration. you are watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. once upon a time, an insurance clerk stumbled upon a cottage. [knock] no one was at home, but on the kitchen table sat three insurance policies. the first had lots of coverage. the second, only a little. but the third was... just right! bear: hi! yeah, we love visitors. that's why we moved to a secluded house in the middle of the wilderness. just the right coverage at just the right price. coverage checker from progressive. you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec
. >> up next, remembering nelson mandela, the president and mrs. obama are on the way to south africa right now for what is becoming a massive memorial, perhaps the largest in world history. heads of state will be gagering to pay respects. it will be a security nightmare for agents around the world. >> cans on across the country thanks to a wintry mix. we will have none other than jim cantore who will be live from the snowy northeast. a look ahead at the politics planner. >>...
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. >> this is a special mass for mr. mandela. >> reporter: tears and keers capturing the love for father as south africans called mandela. the greatest memorial may be the faces, black and white together, parents bring children who will live a life madiba made possible. >> they were born free in south africa. they experience all the fruit. >> reporter: which pride and legacy, there is also lochlts one man has mandela's image on his car and says he hasn't been able to sleep or eat sense he heard the news. >> how can i live without madiba? i'm so sad. >> reporter: the long good bye will continue all week, adding to the legend and legacy of nelson mandela. you know on friday they had a ceremony for nelson mandela, a traditional african one where they closed his eyes. wherever he is, i hope his ears are opened, to hear this, this is what they say would be the greatest memorial for fell nnel mandela, living apart. that's what's going on right now as a buildup to tomorrow t. kind of sendoff and a memorial we haven't seen. 90,0
. >> this is a special mass for mr. mandela. >> reporter: tears and keers capturing the love for father as south africans called mandela. the greatest memorial may be the faces, black and white together, parents bring children who will live a life madiba made possible. >> they were born free in south africa. they experience all the fruit. >> reporter: which pride and legacy, there is also lochlts one man has mandela's image on his car and says he hasn't been able to...
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mandela's body will lie in state at the union building and on sunday next week, the state funeral, the official funeral in his homeland homeland, very remote part of the country but where he wanted to be buried so, again, an emotional week, a long good-bye, a lot of mourning, but also a time to celebrate this life. >> ron allen for us, thank you. >>> we move to washington where a budget deal finally sounds imminent, "the washington post" reporting the finishing touches under way with a sealed deal expected on capitol hill. the first successful budget, of course, since 2011 but it amounts to little more than a cease-fire according to "the post" because the deal would not significantly reduce the $17.3 trillion in debt. it wouldn't close corporate tax loopholes. it wouldn't fully replace sequester cuts. in essence it appears it would just avoid another debt crisis on capitol hill. >>> a rare trip to pakistan for chuck hagel. it is the first trip there for a pentagon chief in three years. his meetings with pakistan's prime minister over tensions with drone strikes and hopes to repair the
mandela's body will lie in state at the union building and on sunday next week, the state funeral, the official funeral in his homeland homeland, very remote part of the country but where he wanted to be buried so, again, an emotional week, a long good-bye, a lot of mourning, but also a time to celebrate this life. >> ron allen for us, thank you. >>> we move to washington where a budget deal finally sounds imminent, "the washington post" reporting the finishing touches...
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to the regina church her entire life. >> it's a special mass for mr. mandela. every time he came up from the islands, he would say peace. so that he'll be very pleased. >> reporter: during a struggle against aparthide people used to run to this church when they were trying to hide. there's still bullet holes on the windows. >> we used to run and come to this church to pray to god so that he can come and assist us because we were in trouble during that time. >> reporter: life for his 4- year-old grandson starkly different. and once the seat of the aparthide government, thanks for the man who saved them. >> presence in life meant so much for the african people. allowed them to get rid of their guilt feelings. >> i think everybody loves mandela. but true reconciliation, if it's really, i don't see it every day. >> reporter: but today mandela's death has reminded people of what he stood for and the nation they still need to work to create. >> services at san francisco's gladenn memorial church recall mandela and his long fight against aparthide. >>> joyful
to the regina church her entire life. >> it's a special mass for mr. mandela. every time he came up from the islands, he would say peace. so that he'll be very pleased. >> reporter: during a struggle against aparthide people used to run to this church when they were trying to hide. there's still bullet holes on the windows. >> we used to run and come to this church to pray to god so that he can come and assist us because we were in trouble during that time. >> reporter:...
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within minutes of mr. mandela's death, a few flowers were placed outside his home. look at it now. in the days to come, there will be more. >> that is for sure. byron pitts tonight. thank you. >>> and some dramatic pictures coming in from overseas, from ukraine. hundreds of thousands of people filling the central square there in the capital. angry that their president is now forging closer ties with russia and moving away from the west. a landmark statue of vladimir lenin was toppled over. people taking turns taking aim. >>> and from iran tonight, state tv is reporting that u.n. inspectors have begun their work. it comes after that landmark short-term nuclear agreement. this weekend in washington, meantime, president obama giving the odds of achieving a long-term agreement with iran 50/50 at best. >>> meantime, the pentagon under fire tonight for its decision to buy combat helicopters made in russia. lawmakers on both sides, asking, why not made in america? here tonight, abc's aditi roy. >> reporter: tonight, new questions arise as to why the pentagon chose to spend more than $1 bi
within minutes of mr. mandela's death, a few flowers were placed outside his home. look at it now. in the days to come, there will be more. >> that is for sure. byron pitts tonight. thank you. >>> and some dramatic pictures coming in from overseas, from ukraine. hundreds of thousands of people filling the central square there in the capital. angry that their president is now forging closer ties with russia and moving away from the west. a landmark statue of vladimir lenin was...
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. >> mr. mandela, a man who embodies the hopes of millions. >> reporter: it was bill clinton with whom he would develop the closest bond. mandela, now president of south africa, visited the white house during the darkest days of the clinton presidency. he gave his friend a boost. >> our morality does not allow us to desert our friends. >> reporter: this friendship clinton treasures to this day. >> we just hit it off. i just adored him.ueriend. >> reporter: mandela, as an ex-president, met with george w. bush in 2005. but there was no love lost there. mandela was one of bush's harshest critics when it came to iraq. when we talked to bush about the ailing mandela earlier this year, there were no hard feelings. >> he promoted freedom. he was a really great leader. he was smart and capable. and made his mark. >> reporter: obama only met mandela once. ever so briefly as a junior senator. but his connection may be the most profound. it was mandela, he says, who awakened him to the wider world. inspi
. >> mr. mandela, a man who embodies the hopes of millions. >> reporter: it was bill clinton with whom he would develop the closest bond. mandela, now president of south africa, visited the white house during the darkest days of the clinton presidency. he gave his friend a boost. >> our morality does not allow us to desert our friends. >> reporter: this friendship clinton treasures to this day. >> we just hit it off. i just adored him.ueriend. >> reporter:...
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mandela made his last public appearance at the 2010 world cup. it's confirmed, president obama and the first lady will be there, along with former president george w. bush and mrs. bush. former president jimmy carter and former president bill clinton and mrs. clinton are expected at the funeral next sunday. wednesday through friday, he will lie in state in the nation's legislative capital. next sunday, the state funeral in his hometown on the eastern cape. his long-time friend and lawyer, george bizos. >> he will go down in history, i think, as the revolutionary who didn't believe in violence. >> reporter: earlier today, we had our first public sighting of winnie mandela, his former wife and partner in the dark days of apartheid. tomorrow will be quiet. on tuesday, the gathering like the world has never seen before, as dignitaries from around the globe gather to say farewell to nelson mandela. bianna? >> a week of mourning, reflection, and celebration. our thanks to you. >>> nelson mandela has a large and complicated family tree with over a dozen
mandela made his last public appearance at the 2010 world cup. it's confirmed, president obama and the first lady will be there, along with former president george w. bush and mrs. bush. former president jimmy carter and former president bill clinton and mrs. clinton are expected at the funeral next sunday. wednesday through friday, he will lie in state in the nation's legislative capital. next sunday, the state funeral in his hometown on the eastern cape. his long-time friend and lawyer,...
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mandela made his last public appearance at the 2010 world cup. president obama and the first lady will be there, along with former president george w. bush and mrs. bush. former president jimmy carter. and former president bill clinton and mrs. clinton are expected at the funeral on sunday. next sunday, the state funeral in his hometown on the eastern cape. his long-time friend and lawyer, george bizos. >> he will go down in history, i think, as the revolutionary who didn't believe in violence. >> reporter: earlier today, we had our first public sighting of winnie mandela, his former wife and partner. today will be quiet. on tuesday, the gatheri ining l the world has never seen before, as dignitaries from around the globe gather to say farewell. >> nelson mandela has a large and complicated family tree with over a dozen grandchildren. some of them opened up to reena ninan on a recent visit to south africa. she's here to tell us about it. >> reporter: 17 grandkids and three wives. everyone vying for his time and affection. there is one thing that
mandela made his last public appearance at the 2010 world cup. president obama and the first lady will be there, along with former president george w. bush and mrs. bush. former president jimmy carter. and former president bill clinton and mrs. clinton are expected at the funeral on sunday. next sunday, the state funeral in his hometown on the eastern cape. his long-time friend and lawyer, george bizos. >> he will go down in history, i think, as the revolutionary who didn't believe in...
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. >> the official mourning of nelson mandela has begun. president obama and mrs. obama will attend the furniture on tuesday. it's part of a series of events planned to honour the leader. >> i'm john henry smith, we'll look on a championship saturday in college football. the day that stood up for d.c. s. >> al jazeera continues in 2.5 minutes. i'm morgan radford. i'll be back with all the top stories. >> troops on the ground. hundreds of french troops sent to the central african republic trying to restore order. anti-government protesters in the ukraine call for a million-man march trying to get rid of the government. in a day of mourning nelson mandela's ex-wife attended a church service to pay tribe ute to a government. gold snap across the city - smart lander at a stand still. freezing rain and heavy snow - cold snap. >> good morning, welcome to al jazeera america. i'm morgan radford, live in new york city. the french president issued a veiled warning to the president of the central african republic, francis hollande saying it will be tough to keep him in place
. >> the official mourning of nelson mandela has begun. president obama and mrs. obama will attend the furniture on tuesday. it's part of a series of events planned to honour the leader. >> i'm john henry smith, we'll look on a championship saturday in college football. the day that stood up for d.c. s. >> al jazeera continues in 2.5 minutes. i'm morgan radford. i'll be back with all the top stories. >> troops on the ground. hundreds of french troops sent to the central...
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capitol remains at half staff in honor of nelson mandela. the white house announced that the president and mr. obama -- and mrs. obama will be joined by presidents carter, clinton, and george w.
capitol remains at half staff in honor of nelson mandela. the white house announced that the president and mr. obama -- and mrs. obama will be joined by presidents carter, clinton, and george w.
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obama who met mandela shortly after becoming first lady. president bush and laura bush have been invited to travel with the obamas, and former president clinton and hillary clinton will travel to the tribute for nelson mandela. from south africa we hear from one of his friends who described those final visits with the man he revered. abc's byron pitts from outside mandela's home. >> reporter: nowhere has admiration for nelson mandela been stronger, expressed more passionately than a few feet from his doorstep outside his home where the beloved statesman took his last breath. >> by singing and dancing, it's a way of showing our appreciation. >> he represents this country. >> reporter: nelson mandela will be laid to rest in grand style. tuesday, a memorial service like the world has never seen. some 95,000 people packed inside the stadium. wednesday through friday the former president will lay in state in pretoria, the nation's legislative capital. next sunday mandela will be laid to rest in the small village of his boyhood on the eastern cap
obama who met mandela shortly after becoming first lady. president bush and laura bush have been invited to travel with the obamas, and former president clinton and hillary clinton will travel to the tribute for nelson mandela. from south africa we hear from one of his friends who described those final visits with the man he revered. abc's byron pitts from outside mandela's home. >> reporter: nowhere has admiration for nelson mandela been stronger, expressed more passionately than a few...
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he was told, "mr president, you don't have to worry. no one is in danger. the reason that red light goes on is because you should have finished speaking a long time ago." >> underlying the better life that nelson mandela made. >> i think it is a big thing for me, that nobody would have done for me. >> i think he played a role, especially for the young people of today. he made a sacrifice for where we are today. there's a lot of opportunities that came from what - from the decisions that he had made in the past. >> nelson mandela to me - i can say he's a hero because he died for the freedom we are living in now. >> there are so many people fighting for the democratic light. nelson mandela is not only for south africa now, he's for the whole world. he's recognised as a peacemaker, as somebody who has done a lot for his people. not only for black people, but for the whole nation and the globe. but it's not only the lives of the youths that nelson mandela changed. >> it's not only for the children. we were stopped and i remember we had a petrol bomb thing we we
he was told, "mr president, you don't have to worry. no one is in danger. the reason that red light goes on is because you should have finished speaking a long time ago." >> underlying the better life that nelson mandela made. >> i think it is a big thing for me, that nobody would have done for me. >> i think he played a role, especially for the young people of today. he made a sacrifice for where we are today. there's a lot of opportunities that came from what -...
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mr. mandela ought to be released that we're bringing a bigger martyr of him every day he stays in prison, and that his international aclaim and status would be growing to an extent that we would not be able to hand it will any more. unfortunately, it continued on. >> here we have a man 27 years in prison. the day he was released he displayed the acumen and attitude of an american who has been a president before. amazing. amazing what insight he had into the minds of people. and for that matter into world affairs. >> and central to the success of the negotiation process that led to a peaceful transfer of power was mandela's insistence that there need be no losers. that all could read. >> we handed over power. but we were not capitulating. you do not capitulate and surrender when you do the right thing. you liberate yourself. that's what we did. it was not a capitulation. it was liberation. >> reporter: and the what month says he was liberated quotes from a statement that nelson mandela mad
mr. mandela ought to be released that we're bringing a bigger martyr of him every day he stays in prison, and that his international aclaim and status would be growing to an extent that we would not be able to hand it will any more. unfortunately, it continued on. >> here we have a man 27 years in prison. the day he was released he displayed the acumen and attitude of an american who has been a president before. amazing. amazing what insight he had into the minds of people. and for that...
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mandela. mr. obama often noted privately and publicly that his sacrifices would never compare to mr. mandela's. aide to mr. obama said he was uncomfortable when people drew parallels between them as often as they did. this is from "the new york time times", not "the washington post." i apologize. how fair are those comparisons? they are inevitable and now we're going to continue to read and hear more about them over the next few days and weeks. how fair are they? >> it depends on which mr. mandela you're talking about. >> and which mr. obama you're talking about. >> one of the things that we talk about is mr. mandela as a tremendous humanitarian leader and so on. and he really was. but he was also a politician. and he also had to hold together a coalition, find the way to steer his country forward as the first black representative in that democratically elected government. in that way, they do have a great deal in common. you do see a very nervous and frightened group of white south africans wonde
mandela. mr. obama often noted privately and publicly that his sacrifices would never compare to mr. mandela's. aide to mr. obama said he was uncomfortable when people drew parallels between them as often as they did. this is from "the new york time times", not "the washington post." i apologize. how fair are those comparisons? they are inevitable and now we're going to continue to read and hear more about them over the next few days and weeks. how fair are they? >> it...
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mandela back in 1990. i want you to tell people because you were literally star struck. >> i absolutely was. i've been blessed to be around some phenomenal people, some great leaders, but there's no one like nelson mandela. so yes, the first time i was in his company was immediately after we had organized a glorious ticker tape for him parade down broadway in manhattan. we took him into city hall in new york, and had found myself alone with him in the mayor's office. and i didn't realize that i had been just staring at the man for probably ten minutes till i heard a voice say, excuse me, young man. can i trouble you for that glass of water. i realized that he had probably asked me several times for some water after being out in the heat and this long parade. i raced, got him the water and darn near spilled it all over him, i was so incredibly nervous and in awe of him. even though when you were around him, you were in awe, there was something about him that will created an accessibility, too. i never exper
mandela back in 1990. i want you to tell people because you were literally star struck. >> i absolutely was. i've been blessed to be around some phenomenal people, some great leaders, but there's no one like nelson mandela. so yes, the first time i was in his company was immediately after we had organized a glorious ticker tape for him parade down broadway in manhattan. we took him into city hall in new york, and had found myself alone with him in the mayor's office. and i didn't realize...
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mr. newman had to say before boarding his plane to the united states. >> i'm very glad to be on my way home. i appreciate the tolerance the dprk government has given to me to be on my way. >> how do you feel now? >> i feel good. i feel good. >> what will you have to do, first thing? >> first thing, what would you like to do? >> go home and see my wife. [ laughter ] >> reporter: newman had lived most of his life in palo alto, following his militarily service, he was a high schoolteacher and later became a successful silicon valley executive. he is said to have been a world traveler, was a scuba diver, had sailed around the world. so even given his age, again, 85 years old, it wasn't terribly surprising to people who knew him that he would want to go back to north korea. fred? >> and, dan, is there a better explanation as to why he was quote/unquote deported now? >> reporter: it's a very good question. you know, he did give that, what can only be characterized as a stilted apology when he w
mr. newman had to say before boarding his plane to the united states. >> i'm very glad to be on my way home. i appreciate the tolerance the dprk government has given to me to be on my way. >> how do you feel now? >> i feel good. i feel good. >> what will you have to do, first thing? >> first thing, what would you like to do? >> go home and see my wife. [ laughter ] >> reporter: newman had lived most of his life in palo alto, following his militarily...
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mr. mandela's body is being prepared now for his lying in state. that will happen late they are week. on tuesday, there will be an official memorial service, then there will be a state funeral on sunday in the village where he grew up. >>> number four, mexican police have recovered stolen radioactive material and are grilling six men who may be connected to the theft. the men tested negative for any poisoning from that material. they're now in police custody. mexican authorities say they've recovered all of the lost cobalt-60 material, but they've been tight-lipped about whether they've made any arrests in the broader case. >>> services will be held today in hawaii to mark the 72nd anniversary of the japanese attack on pearl harbor. lots of veterans and survivors are angry that the traditional missing-man flyover, you saw one there, has been cancelled this year. because of military budget constraints. >>> blockbuster jobs report for november. >> yeah. >> and it could not have come at a better time really for president obama. he's not had a lot of g
mr. mandela's body is being prepared now for his lying in state. that will happen late they are week. on tuesday, there will be an official memorial service, then there will be a state funeral on sunday in the village where he grew up. >>> number four, mexican police have recovered stolen radioactive material and are grilling six men who may be connected to the theft. the men tested negative for any poisoning from that material. they're now in police custody. mexican authorities say...
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our country from the president to the mr. president, every day citizens right now our country is mourning the loss of mandela, remembering the life he lived the way he changed the world. our country in the western world wasn't always this united in viewing mandela as a hero. a part tied, apartness in the africano language, they were voted into office in south africa in then 48. they set about passing a series of impressive laws of racial segregation. they western considered citizens. in 1960 when drarts went to the police station in the black town of sharpville and redanded to be arrested, they were protesting the node to have them in the first place. in response to that small act of rebellion, south african police officers opened fire on the crowd and scene people were killed that day. the young liberation leader named nelson mandela said it was that moment that radicalized him in the fight against apartheid, to beat the anc, it wouldn't be long before he was arrested and convicted of treason and sent away to prison for life
our country from the president to the mr. president, every day citizens right now our country is mourning the loss of mandela, remembering the life he lived the way he changed the world. our country in the western world wasn't always this united in viewing mandela as a hero. a part tied, apartness in the africano language, they were voted into office in south africa in then 48. they set about passing a series of impressive laws of racial segregation. they western considered citizens. in 1960...
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and it's a sign of mandala's importance as a world leader that mr. obama will be joined by former presidents george w. bush and bill clinton and their wives. anthony, venita? >> bill plante at the white house this morning. >>> the world remembers nelson mandela as a fighter for justice and a great national leader. but mandala also understood the rich power of music. in tonight's 48-hour special, "nelson mandela: father of a nation" jazz legend and cbs contributor, went wibtynton marsalis shows how music became an instrument of social change in south africa. ♪ ♪ >> nelson mandela's life-long fight for freedom in south africa had a secret weapon -- music. ♪ ♪ >> one of the masters of that music, and a man who knew nelson mandela is legendary horn man, hugh masekela. we got together to remember mandala and the music that propelled a people's revolution. ♪ ♪ >> the story of nelson mandela jailed for such a long time. but what was the perception of mandala when he was in jail? were you aware of him and what he had done? >> we all knew him from
and it's a sign of mandala's importance as a world leader that mr. obama will be joined by former presidents george w. bush and bill clinton and their wives. anthony, venita? >> bill plante at the white house this morning. >>> the world remembers nelson mandela as a fighter for justice and a great national leader. but mandala also understood the rich power of music. in tonight's 48-hour special, "nelson mandela: father of a nation" jazz legend and cbs contributor, went...
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mr. mandela became a living martyr. so he had the power beyond that. mr. gandhi was killed. dr. king was killed. he survived years beyond his imprisonment and became this huge global moral authority. and against the odds of being considered a terrorist. to go from considered a terrorist to moral authority, the most in the world world, i think about how long the world kept mr. mandela on the terrorist list, until july 2008. that's a source of shame to us. leadership led by the people like robinson and roger wilkins and holmes-norton. they laid the groundwork for his freedom. he always suppressed appreciation. >> may i ask you the last time you met with him and when you left if you got a sense that it would be the last time. >> it was difficult for him to hear at that time. he came to have a meeting. we took pictures together. we laughed. and i asked him about the farm where he finally was captured. and he said something interesting. he changed gears. he said, you know, that was the place i was captured. not full of regrets. and i didn't understand that. he said he became the comm
mr. mandela became a living martyr. so he had the power beyond that. mr. gandhi was killed. dr. king was killed. he survived years beyond his imprisonment and became this huge global moral authority. and against the odds of being considered a terrorist. to go from considered a terrorist to moral authority, the most in the world world, i think about how long the world kept mr. mandela on the terrorist list, until july 2008. that's a source of shame to us. leadership led by the people like...
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except mr. mandela. i find him outstanding. being terribly cool and relaxed. that's the first time i met him. again, i met mr. mandela in his office, in his law office in johannesburg in 1952 where he posed for me for a photograph in front of his desk. again, i found i had this impression of him being a very relaxed and self controlled person. >> i want to go back to the first picture we showed. i understand it is your favorite. it is of mandela in his cell on robben island in 1994. voted one of the most memorable images of the 20th century. give us insight into this moment. if you spoke with him or what he was thinking at that moment. >> it is very difficult for me to know what he was thinking. i imagine that at that time, he had spent 17 years in this cell. i asked him if he would stand against the window and look out through the bars. he did that for me. i photographed a number of pictures of him standing looking out. there was a moment of total quietness and it was a very thoughtful moment. i noticed the different frames i shot as the expressions changed f
except mr. mandela. i find him outstanding. being terribly cool and relaxed. that's the first time i met him. again, i met mr. mandela in his office, in his law office in johannesburg in 1952 where he posed for me for a photograph in front of his desk. again, i found i had this impression of him being a very relaxed and self controlled person. >> i want to go back to the first picture we showed. i understand it is your favorite. it is of mandela in his cell on robben island in 1994. voted...
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to the first nobel peace prize laureate and will be attended by world leaders, the president, mrs. obama, david cameron and his wife. the final details of the state funeral have not properly been worked out. it is reported to be sunday 15th, but it's not guaranteed. that will be the day hes buried in his ancestral home. it's 450 miles since johannesburg. that is the site of the - of three of his children and close family members. it's in a place like this that nelson mandela. madeba, will lie in peace forever. >> that was al jazeera's john terrett reporting. >> delegates from iran, the u.s. and five other world powers are preparing to iron out the details of a deal to monitor iran's nuclear program. talks are set for geneva, focussing on when the talks will be held. diplomats hope a short-term deal will lead to a final settlement, calming fears of a nooek lure bomb. >> as world powers prepare to sit with iran. the door is opened to selling defense systems to u.s. allies. chuck hagel says that despite the deal with iran, the country poses threats not addressed by the nuclear agreeme
to the first nobel peace prize laureate and will be attended by world leaders, the president, mrs. obama, david cameron and his wife. the final details of the state funeral have not properly been worked out. it is reported to be sunday 15th, but it's not guaranteed. that will be the day hes buried in his ancestral home. it's 450 miles since johannesburg. that is the site of the - of three of his children and close family members. it's in a place like this that nelson mandela. madeba, will lie...
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he has been talking about nelson mandela's legacy. president clinton telling fox news's ed henry that mandela gave him advice during the monica lewinski scandal, interestingly enough. he says that mandela, who spent 27 years in prison, taught him not to hate his enemies. >> i said, didn't you hate those people when you went in? i seen the pictures of you as a young man. you were really mad. he said, i realized they could take everything from me, everything except my mind and my heart. those things i would have to give them, and he said i decided not to give them away. and he looked right at me and he said, "neither should you." the heat was really being turned up in congress, and mbeki looked at me and he said, madiba told me to give you a message. he said i have no earthly idea what it means, but you would know what it means. i said what did he tell you? he said i should remind you not to give them away. >> very interesting. and there are the two of them in nelson mandela's jail cell on robben island. president clinton will also go t
he has been talking about nelson mandela's legacy. president clinton telling fox news's ed henry that mandela gave him advice during the monica lewinski scandal, interestingly enough. he says that mandela, who spent 27 years in prison, taught him not to hate his enemies. >> i said, didn't you hate those people when you went in? i seen the pictures of you as a young man. you were really mad. he said, i realized they could take everything from me, everything except my mind and my heart....